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    Thumbs down Seats question (rips, RTA, buying a 3rd party seat) 5th Gen Prelude

    So I have 10 months rego at the moment with my 5th gen. Being a new Prelude and car owner here in NSW, somebody told me I'd need to replace my seat if it had a rip or tear as it becomes a hazard according to the RTA? I will post a picture of it below. Anyway, real question is - if this is true, what 3rd party bucket seats could anyone recommend to me that is semi cheap? (looking for 1, under the 600 mark.).

    Something that would fit on the current rails or have rails provided since I will be doing the work myself. Any advice and help would be appreciated!

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    You'll need to either buy rails to suit or modify what you have/fabricate something. Second hand from private sellers or workshops that are retailers would be your best bet, but if you want something brand new you can pick up a Sparco Sprint or a Sparco Rev with that budget, or a few other entry level choices from brands that don't specialise in seats. That being said, you'll probably need to mod plate the seat. I would personally just go to the wreckers and try source another seat and steam clean it.

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    ^^ good advice on the aftermarket seat there. Only thing I'd add is make sure if you buy a seat for a road car that it is ADR approved. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that only custom made rails need to be engineered/mod plated, a proper bride/sparco/recaro etc rail should be OK to swap straight in but you'll lose at least $2-300 of your budget on one of these even second hand. A $3-400 brand name aftermarket seat won't be particularly comfortable for long trips in my experience.

    Where did you hear about being defected for a rip in the seat? The only evidence I can find of it happening is anecdotal, usually because a cop is desperate to find anything to fine someone for and generally only results in a caution anyway. You can be defected if your seat is so badly worn that it's dangerous but I don't think anyone would argue a cosmetic tear like that is going to kill you in an accident.

    If you do want to swap, I agree that it'd be best to try and find a good set second hand. A S2000 leather seat swap is popular and looks amazing if you can find them. Have you thought about just getting some seat covers in the meantime until you can sort out something better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austro View Post
    You'll need to either buy rails to suit or modify what you have/fabricate something. Second hand from private sellers or workshops that are retailers would be your best bet, but if you want something brand new you can pick up a Sparco Sprint or a Sparco Rev with that budget, or a few other entry level choices from brands that don't specialise in seats. That being said, you'll probably need to mod plate the seat. I would personally just go to the wreckers and try source another seat and steam clean it.
    Thanks for the reply! I might hit the wreckers up and see if I can find something there, otherwise I'll just cut down on the going out and go with an entry starter.

    Quote Originally Posted by tassie_bb1 View Post
    ^^ good advice on the aftermarket seat there. Only thing I'd add is make sure if you buy a seat for a road car that it is ADR approved. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that only custom made rails need to be engineered/mod plated, a proper bride/sparco/recaro etc rail should be OK to swap straight in but you'll lose at least $2-300 of your budget on one of these even second hand. A $3-400 brand name aftermarket seat won't be particularly comfortable for long trips in my experience.

    Where did you hear about being defected for a rip in the seat? The only evidence I can find of it happening is anecdotal, usually because a cop is desperate to find anything to fine someone for and generally only results in a caution anyway. You can be defected if your seat is so badly worn that it's dangerous but I don't think anyone would argue a cosmetic tear like that is going to kill you in an accident.

    If you do want to swap, I agree that it'd be best to try and find a good set second hand. A S2000 leather seat swap is popular and looks amazing if you can find them. Have you thought about just getting some seat covers in the meantime until you can sort out something better?
    Thanks for the reply bud, My Nissan S13 that I picked up had the seat changed because the previous owner told me it had a side rip and they wouldn't pass him here in NSW because of it - I saw the previous photo of the rip and it wasn't bad, but the debate was that it could "hook onto something" while driving? lol So I'm just wondering as If I could keep my stock leather seat - I would! Not fussed about it atm, just thinking long term since this daily will become my N/A project (grown on me). Didn't know that I'd need a cert either for a custom rail job (was going to measure up and drill/bolt) - in that case I might look for a nice S2000, clean Prelude seat or I'll splash extra cash in and go all the way with an ADR approved seat

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    Hmm, never heard of that rule before but I wouldn't put it past them for it to be defectable.

    Rules are most likely different in NSW, but I believe in QLD any aftermarket seat needs to be mod plated and even then only Recaro rails and seats are ADR approved? Not sure on the latter point.

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    You can grab a set of front and back seats anywhere from $150-$350 from experience (private wrecking & wreckers). Keep an eye on the FB page every now and then somebody pops up wrecking a 5th gen. Keep the comradery within Aus prelude owners. Think about if theres anything else you might want to replace in your car and try bundling a few things together with the seats and grab a good deal. Just an idea for you to think about if you ever head down to the wreckers, especially if its not close to your home.

    Leather seats are harder to come by in good condition but you will find plenty of cloth ones which tend to last longer too.

    As for aftermarket bucket/racing seats, autobahn and supercheap sell the SAAS and DRiFT ones for like $300 for a pair or something.. other wise if your taste is a little more branded try; as mentioned above Sparco Sprint fixed back. Would only recommend if your car is a weekender or gets track use. Also keep in mind most bucket/racing seats make it a hassle to do head checks. Make sure you sit in one before buying to see if it'll affect you negatively.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sanchez View Post
    You can grab a set of front and back seats anywhere from $150-$350 from experience (private wrecking & wreckers). Keep an eye on the FB page every now and then somebody pops up wrecking a 5th gen. Keep the comradery within Aus prelude owners. Think about if theres anything else you might want to replace in your car and try bundling a few things together with the seats and grab a good deal. Just an idea for you to think about if you ever head down to the wreckers, especially if its not close to your home.

    Leather seats are harder to come by in good condition but you will find plenty of cloth ones which tend to last longer too.

    As for aftermarket bucket/racing seats, autobahn and supercheap sell the SAAS and DRiFT ones for like $300 for a pair or something.. other wise if your taste is a little more branded try; as mentioned above Sparco Sprint fixed back. Would only recommend if your car is a weekender or gets track use. Also keep in mind most bucket/racing seats make it a hassle to do head checks. Make sure you sit in one before buying to see if it'll affect you negatively.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sanchez View Post
    You can grab a set of front and back seats anywhere from $150-$350 from experience (private wrecking & wreckers). Keep an eye on the FB page every now and then somebody pops up wrecking a 5th gen. Keep the comradery within Aus prelude owners. Think about if theres anything else you might want to replace in your car and try bundling a few things together with the seats and grab a good deal. Just an idea for you to think about if you ever head down to the wreckers, especially if its not close to your home.

    Leather seats are harder to come by in good condition but you will find plenty of cloth ones which tend to last longer too.

    As for aftermarket bucket/racing seats, autobahn and supercheap sell the SAAS and DRiFT ones for like $300 for a pair or something.. other wise if your taste is a little more branded try; as mentioned above Sparco Sprint fixed back. Would only recommend if your car is a weekender or gets track use. Also keep in mind most bucket/racing seats make it a hassle to do head checks. Make sure you sit in one before buying to see if it'll affect you negatively.



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    Thanks for the reply, will keep this in mind I know not to get a fixed back, I have found an adjustable back and I'm negotiating after two aftermarket seats. If that falls through I will probably buy some DC2 cloth seats or find a wrecking prelude that is close to my area. I have checked wreckers and haven't found anything of use there that appeal to my needs (my locals anyway).

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    Keep in mind that if you ever intend to track your car, let alone run a harness you should invest in genuine quality seats.

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    Why don't you just get the seat repaired? Surely that is more cost-effective than buying a new seat...

    Also, being defected for a seat tear sounds like a load of B.S. to me... I'm sure there was something whoever sold you that S13 was hiding something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zane View Post
    So I have 10 months rego at the moment with my 5th gen. Being a new Prelude and car owner here in NSW, somebody told me I'd need to replace my seat if it had a rip or tear as it becomes a hazard according to the RTA? I will post a picture of it below. Anyway, real question is - if this is true, what 3rd party bucket seats could anyone recommend to me that is semi cheap? (looking for 1, under the 600 mark.).

    Something that would fit on the current rails or have rails provided since I will be doing the work myself. Any advice and help would be appreciated!

    postimg.org/image/6yddwwj8t/
    Not sure how 4g seats bolt on, but I'd recommend getting 4g seats. Extremely comfortable and hug you quite well. Best value for money.

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