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    2012 Formula 1 Gran Premio De Espana Santander Grand Prix

    Well after 3 weeks off F1 is back with the 2012 Grand Prix of Spain! Many teams have focused on revised aero packages with McLaren moving to a higher nose setup and Ferrari and Red Bull revising their front wing designs.

    Practice 1 is under way now, 15 minutes left to run, i will update when the results are in.

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    Wanting see see how Ferarri go - they were very keen to use that testing period to push themselves further and as far as I read they did well early there.

    Whether that translates to the track is a different story.

    And was there any weight to the rumour of Webber to Ferrari? Or are we still all guessing?


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    Every year there are rumours that Webber or Hamilton are jumping teams for x,y,z reason. So far i have seen no proof. I'd think its far more likely Webber would retire at the end of the season than move teams. He's in one of the best teams and there is no team that is clearly ahead for him to go to. Plus he's at the end of his career as well so maybe 1 more season and we'll see Ricciardo jump up to the Red Bullshit.

    Results from P1:
    1. Fernando Alonso - Scuderia Ferrari
    2. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
    3. Kamui Kobayashi - Sabuer-Ferrari
    4. Jenson Button - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    5. Valtteri Bottas - Williams-Renault
    6. Michael Schumacher - Mercedes
    7. Romain Grosjean - Lotus Renault
    8. Lewis Hamilton - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    9. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus-Renault
    10. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India Mercedes
    11. Jean-Eric Vergne - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    12. Felipe Massa - Scuderia Ferrari
    13. Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing
    14. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
    15. Sergio Perez - Sauber Ferrari
    16. Daniel Ricciardo - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    17. Pastor Maldonado - Williams-Renault
    18. Jules Bianchi - Force India Mercedes
    19. Vitaly Petrov - Caterham-Renault
    20. Timo Glock - Marussia-Cosworth
    21. Alexander Rossi - Caterham-Renault
    22. Charles Pic - Marussia-Cosworth
    23. Pedro De La Rosa - HRT-Cosworth
    24. Dani Clos - HRT-Cosworth

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    I can see a huge cheque from Enzo's boys that may change his mind. Just saying... I reckon it depends on the end of season results from Ferrari.


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    True, he's not the most illuminating of people, infact to be fair, he's rather dull so i can see him doing a Rubens and fading away to nothing instead of going out while he was still semi successful. Ferrari have not much to offer beyond the name and big $$$ and i don't suspect Red Bull are paying him a pittance. Time will tell but there are better and younger drivers kocking on the door. For the moment his results arn't bad enough to throw him out of the car before contract expiry but he's not going to improve like a Ricciardo/Perez/Grosjean. Before seeing Hamilton's skills last race i'd also have questioned Hamilton's abilities comapred to some of the other drivers but his overtake while off the road in the sand on Nico Rosberg was insane.
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    Vettel is how old? Poor results will see him move too. Ric will get a drive nest year based on what he has done this year - if he moves teams its a different story though.


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    Vettel born in 1987
    Webber born in 1976
    Hamilton born in 1985
    Button born in 1980
    Alonso born in 1981
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    Well it wouldn't be Formula 1 if Hamilton didn't get the arse end of the stick somehow. After putting in possibly the best Qualifying run of his career and taking McLaren's 150th pole position, topping Pastor Maldonado by half a second, Hamilton was forced to stop on track as there wasn't enough fuel left in the car to get back. As such the FIA have excluded him from Qualifying completely and will start from last in the race. Supporting Hamilton is a bit like supporting St Kilda footy team, they have no luck what so ever so you have to follow them out of sheer passion for the team. What it does mean is that for the first time in a decade or so a Williams starts on Pole.

    Other highlights were Bruno Senna sticking it in the dirt while trying desparatly to get into Q2, Mark Webber doing his usual job of being average and missing Q3, Jenson Button struggling with oversteer and understeer and missing Q3 cut and Sebastian Vettel going out first in Q1 to do some sector times and then not stepping up when the big boys started swinging.

    Anyway here are the ammended results.
    1. Pastor Maldonado - Williams Renault
    2. Fernando Alonso - Scuderia Ferrari
    3. Romain Grosjean - Lotus Renault
    4. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus Renault
    5. Sergio Perez - Sauber Ferrari
    6. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
    7. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
    8. Michael Schumacher - Mercedes
    9. Kamui Kobayashi - Sabuer Ferrari
    10. Jenson Button - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    11. Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing
    12. Paul Di Resta - Force India Mercedes
    13. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India Mercedes
    14. Jean-Eric Vergne - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    15. Daniel Ricciardo - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    16. Felipe Massa - Scuderia Ferrari
    17. Bruno Senna - Williams Renault
    18. Vitaly Petrov - Caterham Renault
    19. Hekki Kovaleinen - Caterham Renault
    20. Charles Pic - Marussia Cosworth
    21. Timo Glock - Marussia Cosworth
    22. Pedro De La Rosa - HRT Cosworth
    23. Narain Karthikeyan - HRT Cosworth
    24. Lewis Hamilton - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
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    Quite a good race i thought despite the shocking position McLaren were in. For the first time since i've seriously started follow McLaren i found myself supporting my second team Ferrari as the McLarens seemed to be out of contention but Hamilton set the midfield alight climing from last place to 4th as the pit stops started and after his stop found himself at the back of line of cars in 14th and set about passing them. Red Bull had a day to forget with both cars suffering a nose malfunction with Webber losing out the most in the pack with hamilton going backwards 6 places in 3 corners as he lost all forward momentum. Schumacher made an uncharacteristic mistake running up the back of Senna though he maintains it's Senna's fault for moving back over to take the corner. The result is grid penalty for Schumacher of 5 places at the next race. Alonso passed Maldonado into the first corner and from there it looked like the World Champion had it sewn up but Williams put Ferrari on the back foot by stopping early and threatening to undercut them which they did with the help of a Marussia which held up Alonso for 5 or 6 corners and Maldonado doing the outlap of his life. Alonso fought back through the late stages even getting almost alongside Maldonado with 10 laps to go and it looked like only a matter of time before Maldonado made a mistake or Alonso made his way past but Maldonado showed determination and skill beyond his years to not only hold of Alonso but pull away in the last few laps. Also after the race there was an explosion in the Williams garage as electronics failed in a fuel rig and the party had to be stopped while every escaped. After fighting hard for the win Maldonado carried out his 12 year old cousin from the inferno. On a day that should have been celebrations for William's first race win in decades and Sir Frank William's 70th birthday this is a sad sight.

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    In one of the most exciting seasons in memory there have now been 5 different winners from the first 5 races

    Results!

    1. Pastor Maldonado - Williams Renault
    2. Fernando Alonso - Scuderia Ferrari
    3. Kimi Raikkonen - Lotus Renault
    4. Romain Grosjean - Lotus Renault
    5. Kamui Kobayashi - Sauber Ferrari
    6. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing
    7. Nico Rosberg - Mercedes
    8. Lewis Hamilton - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    9. Jenson Button - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    10. Nico Hulkenberg - Force India Mercedes
    11. Mark Webber - Red Bull Racing
    12. Jean-Eric Vergne - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    13. Daniel Ricciardo - Scuderia Torro Rosso
    14. Paul Di Resta - Force India Mercedes
    15. Felipe Massa - Scuderia Ferrari
    16. Hekki Kovalainen - Caterham Renault
    17. Vitaly Petrov - Caterham Renault
    18. Timo Glock - Marussia Cosworth
    19. Pedro De La Rosa - HRT Cosworth
    DNF - Sergio Perez - Sauber Ferrari (transmission)
    DNF - Charles Pic - Marussia Cosworth (driveshaft)
    DNF - Narain Karthikeyan - HRT Cosworth (mechanical)
    DNF - Bruno Senna - Williams (accident damage)
    DNF - Michael Schumacher - Mercedes (accident)


    Top 3 Driver's World Championship standings at the end of the race:
    1. Sebastian Vettel - Red Bull Racing (61pts)
    2. Fernando Alonso - Scuderia Ferrari (61pts)
    3. Lewis Hamilton - Vodafone McLaren Mercedes (53pts)

    Top 3 Constructors World Championship standings at the end of the race:
    1. Red Bull Racing (103pts)
    2. Vodafone McLaren Mercedes (98pts)
    3. Lotus Renault (84pts)

    Interestingly looking at who has what points in the team it's pretty even between the two driver's of the top teams, 10-15 points difference being the most, except for Ferarri who have 63 constructors points for the season so far, 61 of which Alonso holds. Massa is pathetic.

    2 weeks until the next race, make sure it's in your planner's, Grand Prix of Monte Carlo, otherwise known as MONACO!


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    The race was awesome, but tbh I think it was artificially epic because of the qualifying results. Webbo and Button played the strategy card, and it came back and bit them on the arse. Hamilton put in a stellar drive from the back, I'd almost say the best of his career in F1. Webbo out in a pitiful performance behind Hulkenberg. I know that theRBR isn't the dominant car it once was but thats no excuse. Maldonado drove a great race and did very well to keep Alonso at bay, and much credit to Franks boys for getting their first win in what, 8 years? As Brundle said, probably one of the most popular wins ever. Kiki did well, and had the race been another few laps you'd expect him to have won...but it wasn't.

    And for all the flack, I kinda like the Circuit de Catalunya. Certainly not as boring as the Tilke-dromes the rest of he races are held at.

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    I agree if Hamilton hadn't got the penalty he would have probably blitzed the field with his first stint on the soft tyres being so dominant but who knows what else might have happened at the start if he had been there. I like the catalunya track and after next year it will go to 1 Spanish race a year instead of the current two so we will only see Catalunya once every 2 years.

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    hmmm Monaco...Looks good

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