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    Gold Member JSpec's Avatar
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    Wow! Very indepth thread, I like it
    Nice work on this Shane, will be awesome to see what it will do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludecrs View Post
    QLD - Home of Boosted Hondas and pwnr of PA's Boost Sub Forum.
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    LOL Agreed there, what is it with you Qld'ers? hahaha

    Boosted ludes (and s2k's) qld'rs drug of choice.

    Good work Shane, can't wait to see it finished
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    Pauter Rods hmmm. Excellent choice indeed.

    What is the choice on crank bearings? Clevite, ACL?

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    Ive always wondered, How do you make the sleeves stay in place? I know the sleeve set keeps the thing from sinking down but wouldn't the sleeves move around a bit?

    I know there are a few guys in the nissan vq community who have gone with sleeves and had problems with the sleeves moving... Just wondering...

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    Sleeves are press fitted into the block.

    I'm running ACL bearings on mine for crank and big end.

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    The sleeves are also further restrained by the head clamping forces.

    And yes I think we should move the boosted section to the Qld forums.

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    Yep, ACL ftw
    Also forgot to mention that the pauter rods were supplied with "EDM full pressure direct pin oiling". This is basically a feeder tube up the middle of the rod taking the oil pressure from the big end bearings along the crank up to the wrist pin. This negates the need for oil squirters and also helps cool the piston to some small degree.

    Quote Originally Posted by grnLude View Post
    Ive always wondered, How do you make the sleeves stay in place? I know the sleeve set keeps the thing from sinking down but wouldn't the sleeves move around a bit?

    I know there are a few guys in the nissan vq community who have gone with sleeves and had problems with the sleeves moving... Just wondering...
    As Steve said, they're press fitted. Bob also was on the money when he said that the head clamping forces help restrain the sleeve movement. Darton recommend Cometic head gaskets which are designed in tandem with the MID sleeves to properly secure them.
    The sleeves need 1000 miles of "bedding in" before running higher rpm or heavy acceleration/deceleration.
    The bedding in process for internals/sleeves/brakes etc is going to prove challenging before I've done enough mileage to give the thing a proper tune under full boost!
    The path of Honda is beset on all sides by the iniquities of Mazda and the tyranny of Nissan. Blessed is the Honda owner who in the name of handling and performance shepherds his Honda through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his Honda's keeper and the finder of lost kilowatts. And I will strike down upon thee with great acceleration and furious VTEC those who attempt to overtake and destroy my Hondas. And you will know my name is PRELUDE when I lay my VTEC upon thee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seismic View Post
    Yep, ACL ftw
    Also forgot to mention that the pauter rods were supplied with "EDM full pressure direct pin oiling". This is basically a feeder tube up the middle of the rod taking the oil pressure from the big end bearings along the crank up to the wrist pin. This negates the need for oil squirters and also helps cool the piston to some small degree.
    Nothing really new here... standard H23 rods have oil holes through them to oil the pistons. I'm running the oil squirters as well, just for extra insurance.

    Sounds like a fancy marketing name.

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    I thought you took your squirters out Steve?
    The path of Honda is beset on all sides by the iniquities of Mazda and the tyranny of Nissan. Blessed is the Honda owner who in the name of handling and performance shepherds his Honda through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his Honda's keeper and the finder of lost kilowatts. And I will strike down upon thee with great acceleration and furious VTEC those who attempt to overtake and destroy my Hondas. And you will know my name is PRELUDE when I lay my VTEC upon thee.


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    The H23 doesnt come with squirters standard. I'm running H22 squirters in the H23 block. They needed a little bit of modification to make them fit as the extra stroke from the crank/rods made them touch.

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    Ahh, that was what I saw - you mentioned in one part of your thread that you had to move them a bit and in the back of my mind (which is a scary place) I thought that you were taking them back out.
    Last edited by Seismic; 15th July 2009 at 01:12 PM.
    The path of Honda is beset on all sides by the iniquities of Mazda and the tyranny of Nissan. Blessed is the Honda owner who in the name of handling and performance shepherds his Honda through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his Honda's keeper and the finder of lost kilowatts. And I will strike down upon thee with great acceleration and furious VTEC those who attempt to overtake and destroy my Hondas. And you will know my name is PRELUDE when I lay my VTEC upon thee.


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    Nice collection of parts there Shane!
    Looking forward to seeing the results of your build.

    I'm totally jealous of both yourself and Steve!..... and Ian.....and Brad.
    Boosted ftw!


    Have you still got my climate control unit btw?

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    Yes I do, I never got around to testing it in the system (which is of course not currently operational anyway ) Do you need it back?

    PS there are more pics of more parts to put up, but I'm pacing myself or this "progress" thread will hit a brick wall sooner rather than later
    The path of Honda is beset on all sides by the iniquities of Mazda and the tyranny of Nissan. Blessed is the Honda owner who in the name of handling and performance shepherds his Honda through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his Honda's keeper and the finder of lost kilowatts. And I will strike down upon thee with great acceleration and furious VTEC those who attempt to overtake and destroy my Hondas. And you will know my name is PRELUDE when I lay my VTEC upon thee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seismic View Post
    Yes I do, I never got around to testing it in the system (which is of course not currently operational anyway ) Do you need it back?
    Nah not really. Just wondering if you still have it.
    Your welcome to keep it until you sort your A/C issue out....

    No wait, I better put a 12 month limit on it!

    I've still got your Canadian el cluster too.

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    Hey Shane,

    Just a quick question. Where did you get your MAHLE pistons from?
    And how much were they (if you dont mind me askin).

    Thanks.

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