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    Senior Member torell's Avatar
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    heres a qn, does the series 2 have both the spoiler brake light and rear window breaklight?

    ive seen a few 3Gs with them both, but my auto elec wouldnt fix my window 1 cos he said its illigal to have both

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    I think that cars that had a spoiler from the factory didn't have that other light in the window. Perhaps the spoiler was put on at a later stage?
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    Senior Member torell's Avatar
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    i thaught they all came with the spoiler? lol i wouldnt no

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    I've got both.... but no idea on this one

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    Senior Member the legardo's Avatar
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    ^^ Same here and it looks like thats the way it came from factory too.

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    Silver Member AYRTON's Avatar
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    my tcv had its spoiler removed and it doesnt have an interior brake light either, i cant fit one in, because of the rear wiper.
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    Senior Member TheDecoy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by the legardo View Post
    ^^ Same here and it looks like thats the way it came from factory too.
    Ditto, here. I got both and no way mine were put in after the fact.

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    mine has the same

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    has anyone tested the 0-100kms time?

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    Senior Member torell's Avatar
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    id say i got under the stock 9 seconds

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    Ok Bob, I'm invading 3G land now.

    Here's what I've gathered so far:

    Aussie 3G Ludes have three trim levels,
    Cita
    Cita Luxury
    Si

    All three use an OBD0 B20A6 for all years 1988-1991.

    Now the questions:

    1) What is the performance/price ranking of the three levels? From lowest to highest, I'm guessing Cita, Cita Luxury, then Si.

    2) Which of the three levels were available with 2WS or 4WS?

    3) Do all three levels use the same wheel size? 14x5.5 (4x100 pattern)

    4) Do all three levels of S1 use the D2J5 transmission?

    5) Do all three levels of S2 use the D2M5 transmission?

    6) Does the JDM Si States (with B21A) use the PK3 ECU?

    7) Do all three levels have a unique badge on the rear of the car?

    Lastly is some data.
    In the US, there were several trim levels.
    2.0S (B20A3)
    2.0Si (B20A5)
    2.0Si 4WS (B20A5)
    Si (B21A1)

    In Japan, there were several trim levels not mentioned.
    2.0XL
    2.0XR
    2.0XX
    2.0Si 2WS
    2.0Si 4WS
    XX 2WS
    XX 4WS
    Si 2WS
    Si 4WS
    Si SRS 4WS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH View Post
    1) What is the performance/price ranking of the three levels? From lowest to highest, I'm guessing Cita, Cita Luxury, then Si. Highest spec to lowest, Cita Luxury, Cita, then Si

    2) Which of the three levels were available with 2WS or 4WS? All had 4WS in AUD

    3) Do all three levels use the same wheel size? 14x5.5 (4x100 pattern) Yes all the same

    4) Do all three levels of S1 use the D2J5 transmission? Cita models only offered in the S2. Yes all use the D2J5

    5) Do all three levels of S2 use the D2M5 transmission? Yes

    6) Does the JDM Si States (with B21A) use the PK3 ECU? NFI, My guess is yes

    7) Do all three levels have a unique badge on the rear of the car? No. To my knowledge all are badged as Si. The cita models got extra cheetah decals on the lower front of the door panels. The lux model simply came with the extras. No external features over the cita.

    All. feel free to correct if I'm wrong. This is based on what I've seen in the market.

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    7) Do all three levels have a unique badge on the rear of the car? No. To my knowledge all are badged as Si. The cita models got extra cheetah decals on the lower front of the door panels. The lux model simply came with the extras. No external features over the cita.

    Some series 2's have a "Si4WS" badge:


    Others have a "4ws2.0Si" Badge:


    Also note that Anti lock brake equipped models have a "ALB" badge at the base of the door pillar, you can see it in this pic:
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    Regular Member Kronn 98SH's Avatar
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    Ok, so 1988-1989 models were all Si's? Then in 1990-1991, you had Si, Cita, and Cita Luxury?

    None of the years/levels came in a 2WS version?
    1988 Prelude S - victim of an 80mph backflip
    1991 Prelude Si - sold
    1989 Accord DX - impounded
    1998 Prelude SH - bolt-ons dynoing @ 173whp&140tq
    2006 CRF150F - acquired 6/20/09

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    correct. AUDM is a 2WS free zone.

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